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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Today, I&#8217;m featuring a special guest post from one of my former mentors, R. Scott Smith, Associate Professor of Ethics and Christian Apologetics at Biola University. Dr. Smith was my adviser while I was doing my graduate studies in the Christian Apologetics Program at Biola University. I studied under him in the areas of ethics, philosophy and historical [...]</p><p>The post <a href="http://www.apologeticsguy.com/2012/05/naturalism-atheist-reason-rally/">Naturalism &#8211; A Good Reason to Rally?</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.apologeticsguy.com">Apologetics Guy</a>.</p>]]></description>
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		</p><p>Today, I&#8217;m featuring a special guest post from one of my former mentors, <a href="http://faculty.biola.edu/scott_smith/" target="_blank">R. Scott Smith</a>, Associate Professor of Ethics and Christian Apologetics at Biola University. Dr. Smith was my adviser while I was doing my graduate studies in the Christian Apologetics Program at Biola University. I studied under him in the areas of ethics, philosophy and historical theology.</p>
<p>His guest post might sound a bit technical if you&#8217;re totally new to philosophy, but thinking hard about this stuff might help you understand naturalism more&#8211;maybe a bit more than your atheist friends. His latest work is aimed at the upper division undergraduate audience, or those with some philosophy training: <em><a href="http://amzn.to/J519gM" target="_blank">Naturalism and Our Knowledge of Reality</a></em>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d encourage you to read his guest post and then check out the audio recording of his discussion with my friend, Brian Auten, at the end of this post.</p>
<p><strong>Guest Post by R. Scott Smith</strong></p>
<h3>A Good Reason to Rally?</h3>
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<p>At the “Reason Rally” in Washington, secular, atheistic people gathered in support of “reason” over [mere] “faith” of religious people. Not so hidden in the background was the widely-held cultural mindset that science uses reason and uniquely gives us knowledge of truth (the facts). But religion gives us just personal opinions and preferences, not knowledge. This bifurcation often is called the “fact-value split.”</p>
<h3>Naturalism: &#8220;There Is No God&#8221;</h3>
<p>This science is naturalistic;<span class="shortcode-highlight"> only what is scientifically knowable (i.e., by the five senses) is real.</span><!--/.shortcode-highlight--> In principle, such things as God, souls, and mental states (i.e., non-physical things like thoughts, beliefs, and experiences) cannot be known to be real. Or, simplifying, they don’t exist. Yet, we can test natural, physical stuff scientifically, so that is what is believed to be real. That view of reality is the philosophy undergirding atheistic evolution by natural selection (NS) – naturalism. <span class="shortcode-highlight"><strong>There’s only the physical universe, without anything non-physical.</strong></span><!--/.shortcode-highlight--></p>
<p>Until Darwin, many believed there were non-physical essential natures that separated living things into kinds. Afterwards, biological classification is understood as one interconnected “tree of life” &#8211; all living things share a common ancestor.</p>
<h3>Naturalism, Truth and Knowledge</h3>
<p>Now, <span class="shortcode-highlight">how do we know what’s true on this view? </span><!--/.shortcode-highlight-->Consider <strong>Daniel Dennett</strong>, a leading philosopher, neuroscientist, and New Atheist, who takes evolution by NS very seriously. For him, NS is blind – without any goal planning, thinking about some desired outcome, believing something, or trying to make something happen. And since <span class="shortcode-highlight">non-physical mental states aren’t real</span><!--/.shortcode-highlight-->, the qualities they would have, e.g., their representing something (their being of or about something) also would not be real. <span class="shortcode-highlight">There are only brain states</span><!--/.shortcode-highlight-->, physical patterns, and behavior we take (interpret) to be about something.</p>
<p>Dennett realizes that if there were real, intrinsic (something that’s so due to what kind of thing it is), essential natures, there could be a “deeper” fact (beyond just behavior) of what our thoughts (or beliefs, experiences) are really about. Just due to what those mental states would be essentially, <em><strong>t</strong><strong>hey really could be <span style="text-decoration: underline;">of their objects,</span> and not something else.</strong></em></p>
<p>But, since evolution by NS denies any such essences, Dennett says we only interpret the behavior of people (and sophisticated computers and robots) as being “about” their objects. But that’s all we have to go on – just our interpretations, which we attribute to a person. Based on someone’s behaviors, we interpret them to mean the person is thinking “about” something (e.g., an errand to Lowe’s), but that’s just how we talk. In reality, there isn’t any real “aboutness” to us.</p>
<p>But, there could be other interpretations too. Maybe the thought is “of” something else (e.g., a movie on HBO). But, there’s no fact of the matter we can appeal to, to settle the issue. Dennett admits for that to be so, there would have to be an essence to the thought’s being of something, so that it really is about the errand, not the movie.</p>
<p>But without essences, we’re left only with interpretations; but, of what? Apparently, <strong><em>another interpretation</em></strong>; but if we keep pressing that question, <span class="shortcode-highlight">we’re left just with interpretations of interpretations, etc., without any way to get started and experience something as it is, simply because no mental state is really about anything.</span><!--/.shortcode-highlight--></p>
<p>Bu the same problem applies to our own mental life. Any mental state doesn’t have an essence to be about anything in particular. If they cannot really be about something, then <strong><em>how would we ever know how things really are?</em></strong></p>
<h3>Our Experience Tells a Different Story</h3>
<p>Fortunately, that’s not how we experience life. Our mental states seem to have three essential features:</p>
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<li>They’re “particularized.” My thought about tonight’s dinner, or my experience of drinking a Starbuck&#8217;s chocolate smoothie, is not generic or unspecified. <strong>Each is about something particular</strong>.</li>
<li>These mental states must be <strong><em>about something</em></strong>. It doesn’t seem we could have one that lacks this quality. (Try having a thought that isn’t about anything!)</li>
<li>That “ofness” seems to be intrinsic, or essential, to each mental state. My thought about last night’s dinner could not be about anything else and still be the thought it is. I could observe the price of gas at the Exxon station, but that experience couldn’t have been of my dinner.</li>
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<h3>God: The Best Explanation</h3>
<p>How do we best explain these three apparently essential features of mental states? Dennett realizes that if mental states had essential natures, they really could be of their intended objects, so we could know them.</p>
<p><span class="shortcode-highlight">If athesitic evolution by NS were true, we’d be in a beginningless series of interpretations, without any knowledge. Yet, we know many things. </span><!--/.shortcode-highlight-->So, naturalism &amp; NS are false &#8211; non-physical essences exist. But, what’s their explanation? Being non-physical, it can’t be evolution. So, <span class="shortcode-highlight"> <em><strong>maybe we have souls that use them</strong></em>. It seems likely their best explanation is there’s a Creator after all. </span><!--/.shortcode-highlight--></p>
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<p>Check out R. Scott Smith&#8217;s interview with my friend, Brian Auten, at <a href="http://www.apologetics315.com/2012/04/philosopher-interview-r-scott-smith.html" target="_blank">Apologetics 315</a>. In this interview, he talks about what naturalism is, why people want to be naturalists, the evolutionary argument against naturalism and how to test religious truth-claims. <strong>Listen now.</strong></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>The Reason Rally On March 24, Richard Dawkins and a number of outspoken atheists plan to gather in Washington D.C. for what is being called &#8220;the largest gathering of the secular movement in world history.&#8221; One of the goals of the Reason Rally  is to celebrate atheism and advance secularism in society. Here&#8217;s what stands out [...]</p><p>The post <a href="http://www.apologeticsguy.com/2012/02/atheism-reason-rally-reasonable-faith-apologetics-conference/">The Reason Rally and Reasonable Faith in an Uncertain World</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.apologeticsguy.com">Apologetics Guy</a>.</p>]]></description>
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		</p><h3>The Reason Rally</h3>
<p>On March 24, Richard Dawkins and a number of outspoken atheists plan to gather in Washington D.C. for what is being called &#8220;the largest gathering of the secular movement in world history.&#8221; One of the goals of the <a href="http://www.reasonrally.org" target="_blank">Reason Rally</a>  is to celebrate atheism and advance secularism in society.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what stands out to me: Underlying this movement seems to be the idea that <span class="shortcode-highlight">science and reason ultimately support naturalism&#8212;that truly reasonable people reject a belief in God.</span><!--/.shortcode-highlight--> But something about this seems kind of odd&#8230;</p>
<h3>Atheism and Reason</h3>
<p>It&#8217;s interesting that the <em>new atheism</em> has often caricatured Christian belief as &#8220;blind faith,&#8221; while using reason as a theme for their entire movement. Here&#8217;s what&#8217;s odd to me: If atheism is true, why should we trust our reason at all? Naturalistic evolution is all about survival-enhancing behaviors&#8212;not true beliefs. For example:</p>
<p><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-5257" title="rabbit" src="http://www.apologeticsguy.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/rabbit.jpg" alt="" width="178" height="142" />Imagine you were lost in a jungle and came upon a hungry lion. But for some odd reason, you thought the hungry lion was actually cute little bunny. Then, you said to yourself, &#8220;I&#8217;m gonna go pet that cute little bunny.&#8221; But for another odd reason, you had the false belief that the best way to pet the animal was to run into a cave and hide. So, every time you saw a hungry lion, you ran into a cave to hide. If false beliefs could promote a survival-enhancing behavior, it seems that using reason may not be a reliable way to arrive at truth within the naturalistic framework.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s my point: <span class="shortcode-highlight">If human reasoning was just the product of natural selection, why should we trust our reasoning?</span><!--/.shortcode-highlight--> When it comes to celebrating reason, it seems to me that naturalism&#8212;as a worldview&#8212;isn&#8217;t the best fit.</p>
<p>Still, many atheists have been emotionally hurt by Christians. And I believe positive things can happen when reasonable people get together, honestly see each other as real people, and respectfully dialogue about worldview issues. I hope some of this can happen in Washington D.C.</p>
<h3>The Christian Response in D.C.</h3>
<p>Something you might not know is that I used to live in Maryland and spent a good amount of time playing tourist in Washington D.C. (Although I haven&#8217;t been back east since 2003). I just learned that some of my brothers and sisters from around the world&#8212;people who believe that Christianity is a <em>reasonable</em> worldview&#8212;also plan to gather in D.C. on March 24 to &#8220;demonstrate a humble, loving and <em>thoughtful</em> response to the Reason Rally.&#8221; They&#8217;re mobilizing people via a Web site called <a href="http://www.truereason.org/" target="_blank">TrueReason.org</a></p>
<p>They plan to hang out in small groups, giving out  bottled water and talking with anyone who&#8217;s interested in discussing religion, faith, and reason. A special resource on atheism and Christianity is also in the works&#8211;a collaboration among professional apologists and members of the <a href="http://apologeticalliance.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">Christian Apologetics Alliance</a>. More on this later.</p>
<p>But the Christian response isn&#8217;t limited to our nation&#8217;s capital. We&#8217;re presenting reasons to believe from coast to coast. And on March 24, I&#8217;ll be equipping believers to give a rational defense of our reasonable faith in my local area.</p>
<h3>Defenders in California</h3>
<p>Here on the West Coast, we&#8217;ve got a very cool apologetics training event happening the same weekend as the Reason Rally. To organize this, I&#8217;ve once again partnered with Biola University and Bridgeway Christian Church for <em>Reasonable Faith in an Uncertain World II</em>.</p>
<p>We got such a great response last year, that <span class="shortcode-highlight">I&#8217;ll once again be speaking alongside top defenders of the faith like <strong>J.P. Moreland, Craig Hazen, John Mark Reynolds,</strong> and <strong>Sean McDowell</strong>.</span><!--/.shortcode-highlight--></p>
<p>If you live within a couple of hours from the Greater Sacramento area, I&#8217;d like to invite you to join us for accessible apologetics training in Rocklin, California. This all happens on March 23 and 24.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Attitude Adjustment How did 9/11 change America&#8217;s attitude toward religion? A recent post on CNN&#8217;s Belief Blog says: &#8220;Before 9/11, many atheists kept a low profile. Something changed, though, after 9/11. They got loud&#8230; Criticism of all religion, not just fanatical cults, was no longer taboo after 9/11.&#8221; Indeed. Around the 10-year anniversary of 9/11, American [...]</p><p>The post <a href="http://www.apologeticsguy.com/2011/09/religion-in-america-after-911-is-religion-evil/">America After 9/11: Is Religion Evil?</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.apologeticsguy.com">Apologetics Guy</a>.</p>]]></description>
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<p>How did 9/11 change America&#8217;s attitude toward religion? A <a href="http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/09/03/four-ways-911-changed-americas-attitude-toward-religion/" target="_blank">recent post</a> on CNN&#8217;s Belief Blog says: &#8220;Before 9/11, many atheists kept a low profile. Something changed, though, after 9/11. They got loud&#8230; Criticism of all religion, not just fanatical cults, was no longer taboo after 9/11.&#8221; Indeed. Around the 10-year anniversary of 9/11, American Atheists hit the nightly news by suing to remove a steel cross from the September 11 memorial, even as others were calling it a national monument and a symbol of hope. Still, many atheists say 9/11 is a perfect example of why religion itself is evil. <em>Is Religion Evil?</em></p>
<h3>Is Religion Evil?</h3>
<p><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-4823" style="border: 0pt none; margin: 3px 5px;" title="is-religion-evil-praying-man" src="http://www.apologeticsguy.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/is-religion-evil-praying-man.jpg" alt="" width="178" height="142" />Reminds me of reading Sam Harris&#8217; <em>The End of Faith</em> years ago. I remember when he started to get popular by insisting that religion itself is dangerous and evil. Although he&#8217;s got a lot of fans, a <a href="http://www.religiondispatches.org/archive/atheologies/4486/debating_god:_atheist_and_evangelical_face_off_at_notre_dame" target="_blank">Religion Dispatches</a> article recently called him &#8220;more charismatic than credentialled&#8221; as a speaker. In the same article, Harris is quoted as saying, &#8220;I’m kind of self-taught in religion&#8230;I’ve never studied it formally with anyone.&#8221; But he&#8217;s not the only one who&#8217;s taken the spotlight.</p>
<p>Another atheist, Christopher Hitchens, called religion a poison that makes people give up their reason. But after his now infamous debate on the reasons for belief in God with William Lane Craig, even an <a href="http://commonsenseatheism.com/?p=1230" target="_blank">atheist reviewer</a> called Hitchens a &#8220;rambling and incoherent&#8221; speaker, even a &#8220;loudmouthed journalist,&#8221; saying &#8220;Craig spanked Hitchens like a foolish child.&#8221; Some are saying this debate marked the beginning of the downfall of the so-called &#8220;new atheism&#8221; in America. Time will tell.</p>
<h3>New Atheists: Just Say &#8220;No&#8221; to Tolerance</h3>
<p>Still, I&#8217;m not sure why atheists like Sam Harris and Christopher Hitchens think they can convince you and me that it&#8217;s unreasonable to believe in God if they&#8217;re really convinced that we won&#8217;t listen to reason. Whatever the case, people who follow the New Atheists believe that religion is intolerant&#8211;so it shouldn&#8217;t be tolerated at all in America. But on the 10 year anniversary of 9/11, many Americans are asking this question all over again. <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Is religion evil?</span></p>
<p>In this post, I&#8217;ll show you a quick way to explain why religion itself isn&#8217;t evil&#8212;even in a post-9/11 America. I teach a couple of world religions courses at local universities and I sometimes hear students say things like, &#8220;This is just like in all religion&#8230;&#8221; But lumping all religions together just tells me you haven&#8217;t done your homework. Saying religion itself is dangerous is like saying <em>belief</em> itself is dangerous. Of course, we don&#8217;t just <em>believe</em>&#8212;we believe <em>ideas</em>, like &#8220;Barack Obama is the President of the United States,&#8221; &#8220;Ben and Jerry&#8217;s Cherry Garcia ice cream is delicious,&#8221; and &#8220;It is always wrong to torture babies for fun.&#8221; Ideas are powerful. And they have consequences.</p>
<h3>Apples and Oranges</h3>
<p>Comparing the beliefs of religious people is often like comparing apples and oranges. Or take music as an example. Imagine you&#8217;re at a CD store browsing through a new age section with a bunch of quiet stuff like <em>Enya </em>and <em> Loreena McKennitt</em>. Then you see another section with a bunch of <em>Megadeth, P.O.D </em>and<em> Korn</em>. You wouldn&#8217;t lump all this stuff together and say &#8220;all music is noisy.&#8221; After all, they&#8217;re all basically the same. They all use instruments and vocals to produce songs, right? Why do this with religion?</p>
<p>Consider these two beliefs:</p>
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<li>It&#8217;s good to be a terrorist.</li>
<li>It&#8217;s good to be a pacifist.</li>
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<p>Obviously, a Muslim extremist&#8217;s belief that &#8220;it&#8217;s good to be a terrorist&#8221; is way different than a Quaker&#8217;s belief that &#8220;it&#8217;s good to be a pacifist.&#8221; For example, contrast the September 11 terrorist attacks with the Quakers&#8217; influence on colonial Pennsylvania&#8212;which was basically unarmed as a matter of policy for about 75 years! So,<strong> is religion <em>itself</em> evil?</strong> Ask yourself: &#8220;Are these beliefs both dangerous or evil? Do they produce the same kinds of people or actions?&#8221;</p>
<h3>What Would Jesus Do?</h3>
<p>There&#8217;s a reason the teachings of Jesus has been a force of good in the world&#8211;for Christians and non-Christians alike: When Jesus said &#8220;love your neighbor,&#8221; he didn&#8217;t just mean our friends and family. He meant anyone who needs help. Historically, these Christian beliefs resulted in the invention of hospitals, the abolition of slavery, and the alleviation of human suffering through countless humanitarian missions around the world.</p>
<p>Terrorists who wrap their evil actions up in religious terms don&#8217;t represent everyone who believes in God any more than communist governments that have collectively murdered hundreds of millions represent all atheists.</p>
<p>Of course, anyone can say, &#8220;I&#8217;m religious&#8221; or even claim to follow Jesus&#8212;and then turn around and commit some psycho heinous act that&#8217;s totally against what Jesus taught. But the Apostle John actually said that you&#8217;re a total liar if you live like that (1 John 2:4-6).</p>
<p>Reminds me of how Greg Koukl likes to say, &#8220;Not everyone who <em>claims</em> Christ is claimed <em>by</em>Christ.&#8221; Biblical Christianity shows that religion itself isn&#8217;t evil. So it&#8217;s not really religion itself that&#8217;s the problem. It&#8217;s the content of certain beliefs that we need to carefully evaluate for truth. Because ideas have consequences.</p>
<h3>The Gardener and the Brain Surgeon</h3>
<p>J.P. Moreland once illustrated this in a class by telling the story of the Gardener and the Brain Surgeon. And it goes something like this: Imagine a gardener thinks a special bush you planted was a weed. You hired him to come out and weed your yard and he pulls up your special bush. That wouldn&#8217;t be good, but it&#8217;s not the end of the world. Just go to the store, buy yourself another special bush and tell the gardener not to pull your new special bush. No big deal, right?</p>
<p>But, what if you need brain surgery and you hear your brain surgeon asking one of the staff, &#8220;Now, when I operate on this guy&#8230;um&#8230;Isn&#8217;t the brain located somewhere near the heart?&#8221; Now, if that actually happened, you&#8217;d better run and find yourself another brain surgeon! Here&#8217;s the point. Sometimes being wrong about something isn&#8217;t a big deal, like the case of the gardener. Sometimes, it&#8217;s a huge deal, like in the case with the brain surgeon. As Moreland put it:</p>
<blockquote><p>The more important the issue, the greater the harm in having a false belief. Your picture of God is more like brain surgery than gardening&#8230;How a person thinks about God has a huge impact on the way they live the rest of their lives.</p></blockquote>
<p>Religion isn&#8217;t dangerous. Rather, it&#8217;s false beliefs about God that can have devastating consequences. In light of 9/11, William Lane Craig noted:</p>
<blockquote><p>I think the Muslim terrorists have made a terrible mistake. And the reason is: I think they have the wrong god. The god that they think has commanded them to do this doesn’t exist. Therefore, they are terribly, and tragically mistaken.</p></blockquote>
<p>Seems like 9/11 brought Americans together in a way no other national tragedy has&#8212;at least in my lifetime. We all stood back in horror and called it a &#8220;Day of Evil.&#8221; In fact, in his <a href="http://www.slate.com/id/2303013/" target="_blank">recent article</a> on Slate, even Christsopher Hitchens says that a decade after 9/11, this remains the best description and most essential fact about al-Qaida: <em>Simply Evil</em>. I agree.</p>
<h3>Something&#8217;s Wrong</h3>
<p>Terrorism is evil and it&#8217;s not the way things <em>should </em>be. But it&#8217;s another in-your-face reminder that there&#8217;s something horribly wrong with our world. How does the Christian worldview make sense of this? Some of my friends have joined me in posting their thoughts on the issues related to evil, terrorism and religion after 9/11. I encourage you to browse through this month&#8217;s best related posts from around the apologetics blogosphere (listed in alphabetical order).*</p>
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<li><strong><a href="http://www.patheos.com/Resources/Additional-Resources/911-Are-We-All-Moral-Monsters-Clay-Jones-09-10-2011.html" target="_blank">Are We All Moral Monsters?</a> &#8211; Clay Jones</strong></li>
<li><a href="http://rob-lundberg.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">Evil&#8217;s Three Faces and a Christian Response</a> &#8211; Rob Lundberg (The Real Issue)</li>
<li><a href="http://winteryknight.wordpress.com/2011/09/10/ground-zero-why-truth-matters-for-preventing-another-911-style-attack/" target="_blank">Ground Zero: Why truth matters for preventing another 9/11-style attack</a> &#8211; Wintery Knight</li>
<li><a href="http://www.hieropraxis.com/2011/09/suffering-and-the-cross/" target="_blank">Suffering and the Cross of Christ</a> &#8211; Holly Ordway (Hieropraxis)</li>
<li><a href="http://www.randyeverist.com/2011/09/need-for-moral-choices-and-consequences.html" target="_blank">The Need for Moral Choices and Consequences</a> &#8211; Randy Everist (Possible Worlds)</li>
<li><a href="../../../../../wp-admin/TilledSoil.org" target="_blank">The Problem of Evil: Who&#8217;s problem is it?</a> &#8211; Steve Wilkinson (Tilled Soil)</li>
<li><a href="http://1peter315.wordpress.com/2011/09/11/where-was-god-on-911/" target="_blank">Where Was God on 9/11?</a> &#8211; Stephen Bedard (Hope&#8217;s Reason Blog)</li>
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<p><em></em>Great question. Discover how the Christian Worldview makes sense of evil and suffering with this practical, down-to-earth presentation by Dr. Clay Jones. This talk is part of an accessible apologetics conference I organized with Biola Univeristy, called  <em>Reasonable Faith in an Uncertain World.</em></p>
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<h6><span style="color: #999999;"><em>*Note:</em><em> The links above don&#8217;t imply that I necessarily agree with all of the views expressed by each and every author. Biblical Christianity includes a diverse group of people from a variety of traditions united in Jesus Christ by the essential convictions of our historic faith. </em></span></h6>
<p>The post <a href="http://www.apologeticsguy.com/2011/09/religion-in-america-after-911-is-religion-evil/">America After 9/11: Is Religion Evil?</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.apologeticsguy.com">Apologetics Guy</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Today, I’m pleased to feature an exclusive guest post by my friend, Melissa C. Travis&#8212;a graduate student in the Science and Religion program at Biola University. She&#8217;s also a fellow apologetics blogger. Melissa blogs at http://www.hard-corechristianity.com. Hot Topic: Science and Religion Mature Christians have an insatiable desire for knowledge of God. We study Scripture to [...]</p><p>The post <a href="http://www.apologeticsguy.com/2011/06/religion-science-and-christianity/">Science and Christianity: Not Oil and Water</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.apologeticsguy.com">Apologetics Guy</a>.</p>]]></description>
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		</p><p>Today, I’m pleased to feature an exclusive guest post by my friend, <strong>Melissa C. Travis</strong>&#8212;a graduate student in the Science and Religion program at Biola University. She&#8217;s also a fellow apologetics blogger. Melissa blogs at <a href="http://www.hard-corechristianity.com/" target="_blank">http://www.hard-corechristianity.com</a>.</p>
<h3>Hot Topic: Science and Religion</h3>
<p>Mature Christians have an insatiable desire for knowledge of God. We study Scripture to learn what He has to teach us through Special Revelation, and we study His creation (Natural Revelation) through which we perceive a number of of His attributes. <strong>Romans 1:20 </strong>says:</p>
<blockquote><p>For ever since the world was created, people have seen the earth and sky. Through everything God made, they can clearly see his invisible qualities&#8211;his eternal power and divine nature. So they have no excuse for not knowing God.</p></blockquote>
<p>Natural Revelation involves the various scientific disciplines that have developed over the ages to unlock the secrets of the heavens, the earth, and life.</p>
<h3>Science vs. Christianity?</h3>
<p>Unfortunately, there is the common misperception that science and Scripture are either in a stalemate conflict, or they are mutually exclusive, having no bearing upon one another whatsoever. Both views are incorrect. Science and theology do seek to answer some of the same questions about the world and about life; Scripture isn&#8217;t silent on the subject of nature and not all scientific theorizing is religiously neutral (contrary to what the secular scientific community claims). Therefore, we cannot simply compartmentalize science and theology, and we shouldn&#8217;t avoid the sciences completely, as if they are some kind of dreadful menace to our faith. I believe <strong>J.P. Moreland</strong> said it best in <em><a href="http://amzn.to/uKywrD" target="_blank">Christianity and the Nature of Science</a>:</em></p>
<blockquote><p>In order to be a fully actualized and integrated human being and a mature Christian with no secular/sacred dichotomy, one needs a coherent, intellectually satisfying Christian world view. Such a world view involves, among other things, fitting science and theology together in a harmonious way (141).</p></blockquote>
<h3>Truth in Harmony</h3>
<p>So, what is the appropriate relationship between the two? I share <strong>Stephen Meyer</strong>&#8216;s view that they should co-exist in qualified agreement (See his essay in <em><a href="http://amzn.to/rYzlKJ" target="_blank">Science &amp; Christianity: Four Views</a>)</em>. <span class="shortcode-highlight">When the sciences and theology are each properly understood, the truths they elucidate will be in harmony with one another.</span><!--/.shortcode-highlight--> What&#8217;s more, the natural sciences have revealed evidence for cosmic fine-tuning and biological design, which points to an intelligent agent that transcends the universe—a designer that is compatible with, and offers philosophical support for, Judeo-Christian theism.</p>
<h3>A Stepping-Stone Apologetic</h3>
<p>Take caution, though. Where the discipline of Christian Apologetics is concerned, it isn&#8217;t accurate to say that &#8220;the sciences prove the existence of God.&#8221; Rather, our claim should be that the sciences are increasingly offering evidential support for theism and for the associated truth-claims of Judeo-Christian Scripture. I have come to think of the study of the sciences&#8211;within a theistic paradigm&#8211;as a &#8220;stepping stone&#8221; apologetic: essential for a cumulative and comprehensive argument for Christianity.</p>
<h3>Study the Relationship of Science and Christianity</h3>
<p>For the Christian (scientifically inclined or not) who has realized that they have much to learn on this subject, I would like to offer just a few resource recommendations so that you&#8217;re not overwhelmed by all the choices at your disposal.</p>
<p><strong>Web Sites <strong>on Science and Christianity</strong></strong></p>
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<li><a href="Biola/Spring%202011/Cosmology/www.faithandevolution.com">www.faithandevolution.com</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.discovery.org/csc/">www.discovery.org/csc</a></li>
<li><a href="Biola/Spring%202011/Cosmology/www.uncommondescent.com">www.uncommondescent.com</a></li>
<li><a href="Biola/Spring%202011/Cosmology/www.evolutionnews.org">www.evolutionnews.org</a></li>
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<p><strong>DVDs <strong>on Science and Christianity</strong></strong></p>
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<li><a href="http://amzn.to/spAoAi" target="_blank"><em>Unlocking the Mystery of Life </em></a>by Illustra Media</li>
<li><em><a href="http://amzn.to/tXFVUF" target="_blank">The Privileged Planet</a> </em>by Illustra Media</li>
<li><em><a href="http://amzn.to/tTp1mw">Darwin</a></em><em><a href="http://amzn.to/tTp1mw">&#8216;s Dilemma</a> </em> by Illustra Media</li>
<li><em><a href="http://amzn.to/rXtPa7" target="_blank">Metamorphosis</a> </em>by Illustra Media</li>
<li><em><a href="http://amzn.to/t7T2Pb">The Case for a Creator</a></em> starring Lee Strobel</li>
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<p><strong>Books on Science and Christianity</strong></p>
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<li><em><a href="http://amzn.to/s0dp8a" target="_blank">Understanding Intelligent Design: Everything You Need to Know in Plain Language</a> </em>by William Dembski and Sean McDowell</li>
<li><em><a href="http://amzn.to/sY0LQN" target="_blank">God and Evolution</a> </em>edited by Jay Richards</li>
<li><em><a href="http://amzn.to/rNTX6G" target="_blank">The Privileged Planet</a> </em>by Guillermo Gonzalez and Jay Richards<em> </em></li>
<li><em><a href="http://amzn.to/tRS5sr" target="_blank">A Meaningful World</a> </em>by Benjamin Wiker and Jonathan Witt</li>
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<h3>About Melissa</h3>
<p><em><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-4153" style="margin-left: 3px; margin-right: 3px;" src="http://www.apologeticsguy.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/melissactravis1.jpg" alt="" width="100" height="100" />Melissa is a graduate student at Biola University, studying for the Master of Arts in Science and Religion. She holds a Bachelor’s degree in biology and worked in biotechnology and pharmaceutical research for five years after obtaining her undergraduate degree. She has spent more than a decade studying the science and philosophy pertaining to the origins debate and is also currently working toward her certification in general Christian apologetics from Biola. She directs The Woodlands, Texas chapter of Reasonable Faith and welcomes opportunities to speak and teach on scientific apologetics to youth and adults. Her blog is <a href="http://www.hard-corechristianity.com" target="_blank">www.hard-corechristianity.com</a>. </em></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>While I was driving from Sacramento to the Bay Area, I saw a huge billboard that read, &#8220;Are you good without God? Millions Are.&#8221; I also noticed a theistic tagger added the words, &#8220;Also Lost?&#8221; at the end of the message. I think the original question meant something like, &#8220;Do you feel comfortable without a [...]</p><p>The post <a href="http://www.apologeticsguy.com/2011/02/are-you-good-without-god/">Good Without God?</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.apologeticsguy.com">Apologetics Guy</a>.</p>]]></description>
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		</p><p>While I was driving from Sacramento to the Bay Area, I saw a huge billboard that read, &#8220;Are you good without God? Millions Are.&#8221; I also noticed a theistic tagger added the words, &#8220;Also Lost?&#8221; at the end of the message. I think the original question meant something like, &#8220;Do you feel comfortable without a belief in God? Millions feel the same way.&#8221; Kind of like if you offer someone a drink, and they say, &#8220;No, thanks. I&#8217;m good.&#8221;</p>
<h3>Can&#8217;t People be Good Without God?</h3>
<p>But that got me thinking, &#8220;Can&#8217;t people be good without God?&#8221; I mean, couldn&#8217;t an atheist do some really good things without God? I guess if we mean &#8220;doing the right thing while not believing in God,&#8221; then sure. An atheist <em>could</em> do the right thing. For example, they could honestly report their income to the government, be faithful their spouse and so forth. And why not? But maybe the better question is, &#8220;Why?&#8221; Why even care about being moral?</p>
<h3>Why Do the Right Thing?</h3>
<p>Think about it like this: If God&#8217;s not real, there&#8217;s no moral law giver and no such things as objective moral commands. If that&#8217;s true, then why not say, &#8220;I&#8217;ll do the <em>right</em> thing when it makes me feel good or gives me an advantage, and I&#8217;ll do the <em>wrong</em> thing when <em>it</em> makes me feel good or gives me an advantage.&#8221; Or why not say, &#8220;I hereby declare from this day forward that it&#8217;s always right to steal.&#8221;</p>
<p>If there&#8217;s no God and no objective moral standard, there&#8217;s no moral difference between abusing someone or taking care of them. Basically, good and evil are reduced to preference. All you could say is, &#8220;I don&#8217;t like terrorism,&#8221; or &#8220;I&#8217;m not into slavery.&#8221; &#8220;Human trafficking isn&#8217;t my thing.&#8221;  But who can really live like this? Some things are really wrong. For example, we all know by intuition that it&#8217;s better to give a little girl a loving hug than to hurt her for no reason.</p>
<h3>Right, Wrong, and the Moral Law</h3>
<p>Imagine my 6-year-old asked you who wrote this blog post. It&#8217;d be dumb to say &#8220;No one. And if you think I&#8217;m wrong, don&#8217;t forget I can read better than you!&#8221; The existence of this post implies an author. And it really doesn&#8217;t matter if you can read this post better than a kid. Here&#8217;s the point: <span class="shortcode-highlight">Moral commands imply a moral lawgiver. They are a form of communication from one mind to another. And it doesn&#8217;t matter if a certain atheist happens to do more good deeds than a certain Christian.</span><!--/.shortcode-highlight--></p>
<p>So maybe people really can&#8217;t be good without God after all. I mean, if there&#8217;s no God, there&#8217;s no standard of goodness. On top of that, when we compare ourselves to God&#8217;s standard, it turns out <em>no one</em> is good&#8212;no one&#8217;s lived up to the standard. That&#8217;s what Jesus said in Mark 10:18. Keep in mind that <em>niceness</em> isn&#8217;t goodness. Don&#8217;t you think the Neo-Nazi moms bake cookies for their kids or hand out cupcakes at their birthday parties? Sure they do. Jesus also said it&#8217;s no big deal if we&#8217;re nice to the people we like (Matt. 5:46-47). How do we treat everyone else?</p>
<p>So I guess the real answer to the question, &#8220;Are you good without God?&#8221; is &#8220;No. None of us are.&#8221; That&#8217;s why we need forgiveness. That&#8217;s why we need God. Millions and millions do.</p>
<p><em>This was adapted from my recent guest post on Christiana Szymanski&#8217;s blog, <a href="http://defendchristianfaith.blogspot.com/2011/01/do-right-thing.html" target="_blank">In Defense of Christian Faith</a>.</em></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Listen to This You might remember how I met Holly Ordway and Steven Notman&#8212;2 atheists turned apologists&#8212;while leading a seminar at the Bayside Apologetics Conference featuring J.P. Moreland and William Lane Craig. I never got to hear their presentation, cause I was lecturing at the exact same time. But I did read Holly&#8217;s book, Not [...]</p><p>The post <a href="http://www.apologeticsguy.com/2010/12/audio-former-atheists-stephen-notman-holly-ordway/">Audio: Atheists Turned Apologists</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.apologeticsguy.com">Apologetics Guy</a>.</p>]]></description>
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<p>You might remember how I met Holly Ordway and Steven Notman&#8212;2 atheists turned apologists&#8212;while leading a seminar at the Bayside Apologetics Conference featuring J.P. Moreland and William Lane Craig. I never got to hear their presentation, cause I was lecturing at the exact same time. But I did read Holly&#8217;s book, <a href="http://amzn.to/oXUtcI" target="_blank">Not God&#8217;s Type: A Rational Academic Finds a Radical Faith</a> (Listed in my post, &#8220;<a href="http://www.apologeticsguy.com/2010/11/apologetics-books-give-gift" target="_blank">7 Books to Give as Gifts</a>&#8220;) and loved it.</p>
<h3>Inside the Mind of An Atheist</h3>
<p><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-4476" style="border: 0pt none; margin: 3px 6px;" src="http://www.apologeticsguy.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/formeratheists.jpg" alt="" width="100" height="100" />Maybe you saw Holly and Steven summarizing their talk, &#8220;Inside the Mind of an Atheist,&#8221; <a href="http://www.apologeticsguy.com/2010/10/former-atheists-stephen-notman-holly-ordway/" target="_blank">in this video</a> and wished you could hear more. Now you can. After the Bayside event, William Lane Craig invited Holly and Stephen to share at his defender&#8217;s class. And thanks to Holly, you can hear the whole presentation <a href="http://www.hieropraxis.com/2010/11/presentation-at-william-lane-craigs-defenders-class-inside-the-mind-of-a-former-atheist/" target="_blank">on her blog</a>, where she wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>We have quite different stories in many respects — Stephen’s journey was more emotional, mine more intellectual — highlighting the fact that there is no “one size fits all” method for evangelism.</p></blockquote>
<p>By the way, you&#8217;ll notice their presentation is now called &#8220;Inside the Mind of a <em>Former </em>Atheist;&#8221; something we joked about in the control room at Bayside. All fixed now.</p>
<h3>Download the Presentation</h3>
<p>Listen to Holly Ordway and Steven Notman&#8217;s presentation on moving from atheism to Christianity.<br />
<a href="http://www.hieropraxis.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/2010-11-21-William-Lane-Craig-Defenders-Class.mp3" target="_blank">Inside the Mind of Former <em></em>Atheist (MP3 file).</a></p>
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<h4 style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: #808080;"><span style="color: #333333;"><a href="http://amzn.to/oXUtcI" target="_blank"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-4467" style="border: 0pt none; margin: 2px 5px;" src="http://www.apologeticsguy.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/notgodstype.jpg" alt="" width="75" height="116" /></a><strong>Get the Full Story</strong></span></span></h4>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: #808080;"><span style="color: #333333;">Once hostile to Christianity, Holly&#8217;s search for truth took her on an intellectual and emotional journey from atheism to faith in Jesus. She&#8217;s a college professor and a competitive sabre fencer. </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;">After listening to the presentation, look inside Holly’s new book: </span><span style="color: #3366ff;"><a href="http://amzn.to/oXUtcI" target="_blank"><span style="color: #3366ff;">Not God’s Type: A Rational Academic Finds a Radical Faith</span></a></span></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Better Than Boxing Last weekend, I was probably one of the only Filipino guys more excited about a philosophical debate than the Pacquiao/Margarito fight. But hey, that&#8217;s me! Of course, I&#8217;m talking about the panel debate, Does the Universe Have a Purpose? which happened at Complejo Cultural Universitario in Pueblo, Mexico. Get in the Ring [...]</p><p>The post <a href="http://www.apologeticsguy.com/2010/11/william-lane-craig-richard-dawkins-mexico-debate/">William Lane Craig Talks About Debating Richard Dawkins</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.apologeticsguy.com">Apologetics Guy</a>.</p>]]></description>
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<p>Last weekend, I was probably one of the only Filipino guys more excited about a philosophical debate than the Pacquiao/Margarito fight. But hey, that&#8217;s me! Of course, I&#8217;m talking about the panel debate, <strong><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6tIee8FwX8&amp;feature=channel">Does the Universe Have a Purpose?</a></strong> which happened at<em> Complejo Cultural Universitario </em>in Pueblo, Mexico.</p>
<h3>Get in the Ring</h3>
<p>About 3,000 attended the debate and 2 million people saw it on TV after the boxing match. I actually wondered why William Lane Craig was debating Richard Dawkins in a full-on boxing ring! Guess the organizers wanted to extend the boxing metaphor to the world of ideas.</p>
<p>It was fun to see Doug Geivett and Michael Shermer on the ticket, too (And not just cause I used to work for Doug Geivett!). This was huge. The stats don&#8217;t even count people like me who saw the live video feed online. I hear the debate&#8217;s also coming to movie theaters in Mexico soon.</p>
<p>The atheist side was argued by Matt Ridley, Michael Shermer (Skeptic magazine), and Richard Dawkins (The God Delusion). The theist side was argued by William Lane Craig, Doug Geivett and an L.A. Rabbi, David Wolpe.</p>
<h3>In His Own Words</h3>
<p>William Lane Craig reflected on the weekend in his letter to friends of Reasonable Faith. He wrote, &#8220;Three major characteristics of the conference presentations struck me forcefully.&#8221;</p>
<h4><strong><span style="color: #333333;">1. Naturalism </span></strong></h4>
<p><span style="color: #333333;">There was no cognizance of God or even of religion&#8217;s contribution to culture and humanity. </span></p>
<h4><strong><span style="color: #333333;">2. Scientism </span></strong></h4>
<p><span style="color: #333333;"><span class="shortcode-highlight">The unspoken assumption throughout the conference was that science, and science alone, is the way to truth and knowledge.</span><!--/.shortcode-highlight--> It&#8217;s not just that religious knowledge was excluded. Rather any and every question, even questions that are properly philosophical, was considered only insofar as it could be addressed scientifically. </span></p>
<h4><strong><span style="color: #333333;">3. Utopianism </span></strong></h4>
<p><span style="color: #333333;">There was <span class="shortcode-highlight">a pervasive sentiment that science and technology are the savior of mankind</span><!--/.shortcode-highlight--> and are about to usher us into a golden age. There seemed to be a consistent refusal to face the problem of the human propensity to evil. While we can all rejoice in the marvelous advances in medical technology and in the increasing per capita income in developing countries, still history surely teaches us to be suspicious of naïve optimism about the inevitability of human progress.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #333333;">With this steady stream of unthinking naturalism, scientism, and utopianism, you can imagine how refreshed I was by Doug Geivett&#8217;s arrival on Saturday morning! We rode to the conference venue, where we met David Wolpe. A coin flip determined that the atheist side would go first. Talking with David, we agreed that I should lead off to lay the groundwork for the debate, David would extend our case, and Doug would be anchor man. As it turned out, this worked really well. </span></p>
<p><span style="color: #333333;">While Doug and I dismantled the atheists&#8217; arguments philosophically, David really connected with the audience emotionally, so our styles beautifully complemented each other. After participating in this conference and debate, I came away thankful that the biblical world and life view can confidently hold its own in the city of ideas!</span></p>
<h3>Get the Latest</h3>
<p>You can get more updates like this from from William Lane Craig by subscribing to his <a href="http://www.reasonablefaith.org/site/TellAFriend?msgId=4001.0&amp;devId=28661" target="_blank">free newsletter</a>. For more on the debate, check out <a href="http://douggeivett.wordpress.com/2010/10/28/does-the-universe-have-a-purpose-debate%E2%80%94mexico-november-13-2010/#comments" target="_blank">Doug Geivett&#8217;s commentary</a> and comments from those who saw it live.</p>
<p>You can also listen to William Lane Craig talk about his experience at the debate in this <span style="color: #0000ff;"><a href="http://media.premier.org.uk/unbelievable/28c90db3-db8d-405d-adde-88bdb6290ee5.mp3" target="_blank">audio interview</a>.</span></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>The Live Debate I&#8217;m watching the panel debate, &#8220;Does the Universe Have a Purpose?&#8221; LIVE from Complejo Cultural Universitario in Puebla, Mexico&#8212;right now via this link (11/13/2010). The affirmative aside is being argued by Rabbi David Wolpe, William Lane Craig, Douglas Geivett. The negative side is being argued by Matt Ridley, Michael Shermer, Richard Dawkins. [...]</p><p>The post <a href="http://www.apologeticsguy.com/2010/11/william-lane-craig-richard-dawkins-panel-debate/">Watch William Lane Craig Debate Richard Dawkins</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.apologeticsguy.com">Apologetics Guy</a>.</p>]]></description>
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<p>I&#8217;m watching the panel debate, &#8220;Does the Universe Have a Purpose?&#8221; LIVE from <em>Complejo Cultural Universitario</em> in Puebla, Mexico&#8212;right now via <span style="text-decoration: underline;">this link</span> (11/13/2010).</p>
<p>The affirmative aside is being argued by Rabbi David Wolpe, William Lane Craig, Douglas Geivett. The negative side is being argued by Matt Ridley, Michael Shermer, Richard Dawkins. I&#8217;m so proud of our Biola guys. William Lane Craig was one of my favorite professors and I used to work for Doug Geivett, too. I&#8217;m having a blast watching this&#8212;it&#8217;s also cool that my wife speaks Spanish and can understand the voiceover!</p>
<h3>Now Watch This</h3>
<p><strong>Update (11/18):</strong> I&#8217;ve embedded the recorded <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6tIee8FwX8&amp;" target="_blank">English language video</a> below.<strong><strong></strong></strong></p>
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<h3>Behind the Scenes</h3>
<p>After watching the video, find out what William Lane Craig had to say about debating Richard Dawkins and the rest of the atheist side in my follow-up post: <a href="http://www.apologeticsguy.com/2010/11/william-lane-craig-richard-dawkins-mexico-debate/"><strong>William Lane Craig Talks about debating Richard Dawkins</strong></a></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Watch This Some Christians say, &#8220;people don&#8217;t come to faith through apologetics.&#8221; My guess is they just don&#8217;t know anybody who came to faith this way. But that doesn&#8217;t mean nobody does. For example, Paul&#8217;s efforts to persuade Jews and God-fearing Greeks resulted in &#8220;large numbers&#8221; coming to faith (Acts 17:2-4). We also know Augustine [...]</p><p>The post <a href="http://www.apologeticsguy.com/2010/10/former-atheists-stephen-notman-holly-ordway/">Video: Atheists Turned Apologists</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.apologeticsguy.com">Apologetics Guy</a>.</p>]]></description>
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<p>Some Christians say, &#8220;people don&#8217;t come to faith through apologetics.&#8221; My guess is they just don&#8217;t know anybody who came to faith this way. But that doesn&#8217;t mean nobody does. For example, Paul&#8217;s efforts to persuade Jews and God-fearing Greeks resulted in &#8220;large numbers&#8221; coming to faith (Acts 17:2-4). We also know Augustine and C.S. Lewis both say God used apologetics to draw them closer to himself. Today, we still see skeptics and critics alike abandoning false ideas and embracing a personal relationship with Jesus.</p>
<h3>Former Atheists, Now Defenders of the Faith</h3>
<p>You might have heard my friends, <a href="http://psalmtrees.org/" target="_blank">Stephen Notman</a> and <a href="http://www.hieropraxis.com/" target="_blank">Holly Ordway</a>, at the Bayside Apologetics Seminar talking about how they rejected their atheism and became convinced that Christianity was true.  I&#8217;d been on their blogs before, but it was great to finally meet them in person a little more than a month ago. Watch how Stephen, an attorney, and Holly, a college professor, summarized their breakout session, called &#8220;Inside the Mind of an Atheist.&#8221;</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: #333333;"><em>We had an experience with Jesus that was central to our conversion to Christianity. He is the &#8220;why.&#8221; But apologetics played a part in the &#8220;how</em><em>&#8221; we became Christians as well.</em><strong> -Holly</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong><a href="http://psalmtrees.org/2010/09/06/report-from-the-bayside-apologetics-conference-2010/" target="_blank">On his blog</a>, Stephen wrote:</strong></p>
<p>I focused on the experiential aspect and shared quite a bit of autobiographical information to contextualize my journey from a place of embittered estrangement from God to a place of Grace and the beginning of a new life spent cultivating a relationship with Christ.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.hieropraxis.com/2010/09/bayside-apologetics-seminar-conference-report/" target="_blank">On her blog</a>, Holly wrote:</strong></p>
<p>We discussed our upbringing (mine, in a totally non-religious household; Stephen, in a nominally Anglican household much like Richard Dawkins) and the experiences that brought us to where we could hear the Gospel. For both of us, a direct experience of Christ was central to our conversion, but the role that apologetics played in that journey was different, as was the path that led to our willingness to hear the Gospel. For me, poetry and seeing the witness of Christian character made me willing to listen; for Stephen, recognizing his own moral evil drew him to a recognition of the reality of God. My journey to conversion was heavily intellectual, while Stephen’s was heavily emotional;</p>
<blockquote><p><em>apologetic arguments played a key role in allowing me to accept Christ, while apologetics helped Stephen recognize the rationality of his experience of Christ.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Both of us stressed the volitional aspect of our conversion: after a certain point, accepting Christ was not a question of having more information, but a question of making the choice to accept His authority – or not.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: #808080;"><span style="color: #333333;">After watching the video, check out Holly’s new book:</span><br />
<span style="color: #3366ff;"><a href="http://amzn.to/oXUtcI" target="_blank"><span style="color: #3366ff;">Not God’s Type: A Rational Academic Finds a Radical Faith</span></a></span></span></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Are miracles really possible? I&#8217;m not talking about how some describe a baby being born as &#8220;the miracle of life.&#8221; I&#8217;m talking about biblical reports of Jesus walking on water, healing the blind, and physically rising from the dead. Atheists sometimes say miracles overturn the laws of nature&#8212;and that&#8217;s not possible. Before considering the evidence, however, many skeptics have already decided that naturalism is true. [...]</p><p>The post <a href="http://www.apologeticsguy.com/2010/07/defense-of-miracles/">A Simple Defense of Miracles</a> appeared first on <a href="http://www.apologeticsguy.com">Apologetics Guy</a>.</p>]]></description>
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		</p><h3>Are miracles really possible?</h3>
<p>I&#8217;m not talking about how some describe a baby being born as &#8220;the miracle of life.&#8221; I&#8217;m talking about biblical reports of Jesus walking on water, healing the blind, and physically rising from the dead. Atheists sometimes say miracles overturn the laws of nature&#8212;and that&#8217;s not possible. Before considering the evidence, however, many skeptics have already decided that naturalism is true. But what about this? Do miracles&#8212;by definition&#8212;really overturn the laws of nature?</p>
<p>In the foreword to <a href="http://amzn.to/rYHSM3" target="_blank">The God Conversation</a>, Lee Strobel notes how J.P. Moreland responded to this challenge with a simple defense (p.7):</p>
<blockquote><p>The laws of nature are the way we describe how the world usually works. If someone drops an apple, it falls to the floor. That&#8217;s gravity.</p>
<p>However, if someone were to drop an apple and I were to reach over and grab it before it hit the ground, I wouldn&#8217;t be overturning the law of gravity. I would simply be intervening. In a similar way, God is able to reach into the world that he created by performing a miracle. <span class="shortcode-highlight">He isn&#8217;t contravening or overturning the laws of nature. He&#8217;s simply intervening.</span><!--/.shortcode-highlight--></p></blockquote>
<h3>Let&#8217;s Get Practical</h3>
<p>Apologetics doesn&#8217;t have to be dry and boring. You can have a lot of fun illustrating this concept with a tennis ball. Drop it from a ladder and let it hit the ground. Do it again, but this time, have a student catch it. You could use a basketball, a stuffed animal, a banana creme pie&#8212;OK, maybe not a pie. But you get the idea. Take J.P. Moreland&#8217;s defense and increase it&#8217;s impact with an actual object lesson!</p>
<h3>Your Turn</h3>
<p>As always, I&#8217;m open to your opinion on this. How effective would this illustration be for your group?</p>
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